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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:03 pm 
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I just want to add my thanks to this community and wishes for it to continue for a long time. :up:

I was happy to see Kurobox merge into the linkstation fold. I now find more useful information than ever before. Thanks to the kind help of many of the core people here I was able to resurrect my old Kurobox and start a whole new project with it. This is fantastic, and I owe it to you who helped me out in the forum. I am behind you all 100%.

My only suggestion for future growth would be that perhaps someday forums could mirror the sub-wikis somehow. What I would like to see is that the information structure of the forums and the wikis be similar so that finding the right place to ask a question is as easy as finding information in the wiki. While that may not be the right thing to do now, it may make sense in the future if the other sub-wikis take off.

Overall this is a great site and I would like to help where I am able.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:06 am 
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The current information base build by Mindbender, ramuk, lb_worm and all the others is awesome. Thanks to all those people (even if they just fixed a typo in the wiki).
This will never be debased by a new domain or structure.

I support the NAS-Central.org approach.
In the beginning it will be different for the old linkstationwiki users, but in the long run it will draw more attention and users to this site.
It will also take some time to optimize the structure, but as long as people are willing to contribute to the community it will result in something useful and valuable.
Just allow the site to develop and correct it when and where necessary.

The new front page suggested by ramuk and designed by bbradley is a good start and should get its own thread to develop further.
(My comments/opinions: A box layout instead of a circle would make the arrangement and extension of the manufacturer list easier. NAS Central logo and slogan should be at the top.)

@Mindbender: Will PM you to see if I can help with the FTP server.

Thanks for reading (as my post became longer than expected)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:16 am 
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I really don't understand what the disagreement is about, so I'll just tell my story:

I bought a Kuro/HG when they first came out and I now have a Kuro/HG, a Kuro/HGWR and a linkstation HG. Using the information from the forums and the wiki, I've been able to install and use Sylver's distro, then Gentoo on 2.4 and 2.6 using kernel.org kernel sources and javascout and genbako kernel patches. Previously, the linkstation and Kuro communities were not well integrated. The forums and wiki had always been confusing, due to various versions, models and numerous kinds of slightly outdated and somewhat competitive information. In fact, I bricked my LS/HG by installing a Kuro version of the firmware which didn't have the right IDE driver. By using info from the wiki, I was able to solder a header and use a JTAG cable to fix my brick.

In my sincere opinion, the community now appears to be much better. The kernels have been integrated, the U-Boot project was a fantastic success and I can now use exactly the same software on all three of my boxes. I recently installed foonas-em on all three and I couldn't be happier with the way things have gotten better. My recent trips to nas-central have been better experiences than I've ever had before. Clearly, much work has been invested recently, and I think those responsible should be very proud of it.

Communities like this only get better when people put work into it. They only get worse when it stops being fun and things stop getting done.

Remember, it's just a NAS box. Don't over-think it. My dad used to tell me, if someone offers to cook you a dinner, it's good to learn how to appreciate it rather than to complain about the calories, the seasoning or how much better you could have done it yourself. Life's already too short as it is.

So many, many thanks to those who have worked so hard to develop, collect and keep alive this growing source of information.

Tony


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:45 am 
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Thanks for spamming, mindbender. It's pretty unprofessional to have these kinds of discussions out in the open. If you're wanting to reorganize the site, then moderators and admin staff should discuss it in a closed forum and then present the findings to the public - or simply get on with it.

Spamming all members with a link to this thread is unproductive. Many users are signing on here for a specific piece of advice and don't have any inclination to join in ongoing discussions - this thread is of no interest to at least 80% of your membership.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:36 am 
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TheAperture.com wrote:
Thanks for spamming, mindbender. It's pretty unprofessional to have these kinds of discussions out in the open. If you're wanting to reorganize the site, then moderators and admin staff should discuss it in a closed forum and then present the findings to the public - or simply get on with it.

Spamming all members with a link to this thread is unproductive. Many users are signing on here for a specific piece of advice and don't have any inclination to join in ongoing discussions - this thread is of no interest to at least 80% of your membership.


errr YOU signed on at HIS site... so if he wants to "spam" you then he can and you have agreed to it. If you didn't want that then why not sod off somewhere else? And quite how you as one person can make statements like "no interest to at least 80% of your membership" is beyond me. Did you grab a representative sample of 10 people to come up with that "statistic".

Express your opinion on the subject by all means but don't whine when you get a SINGLE "spam" from the site admin asking for your view. If you have none, then delete the email and ignore but don't come on here and criticise his right to send one email. :finger:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:40 am 
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Would it be an idea to lock this now?

I fear it's going to become like 'chinese whispers'.

It was never about someone v's someone else and who you appreciate etc... It was a genuine question, to which mindbender correctly ask the community for there opinion on how they'd like to see things.

Can we either keep it to that or, as jonli I think suggests, open up a poll etc...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:45 am 
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errr YOU signed on at HIS site... so if he wants to "spam" you then he can and you have agreed to it. If you didn't want that then why not sod off somewhere else? And quite how you as one person can make statements like "no interest to at least 80% of your membership" is beyond me. Did you grab a representative sample of 10 people to come up with that "statistic".
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Just looking at the member list shows that 2495 members have made less than ten posts to the forums
Active members (those with 100 posts or more)? Well, there's just 33 of them.

By my reckoning, that means that the vast majority of members here are transistory. This mass mailing would have more relevance to a far smaller subset of members.

For most other people, simply reading the announcements section of the forum would have brought the issue to people's attention.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:24 pm 
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Just read the mass mailout.

I'm all for the admins doing whatever they want as long as the information stays accessable. I've setup a community site or two in my time, so I understand why mindbender got a bit freaked out by comments and feedback. I say the hell with them; if others find it so important then for gods sake get involved, volunteer to be an admin, and help him out. The rest of us, appreciate the hard work he's put in voluntarily, and get on with your lives.

Can't believe the negative posts by people bitching about the mailout. We get, what 50 spam messages a day on average for all sorts of appalling products, this is only 1 extra for a forum YOU SIGNED UP FOR, asking for a tiny bit of feedback. Did he try to sell you viagra? Get your credit card details? The anonymity of the net really pisses me off sometimes. It like you joined a real life support group, attended a few meetings, then storm back in 6 months later mid-meeting screaming 'HOW DARE YOU f%&8 POST ME A LETTER ASKING FOR FEEDBACK'. Honestly....


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:24 pm 
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hi there!

i don't have enough time to read all the discussions...
i hope i'm right that, the main reason this is all about is mindbenders reorganisation of the site, right?

my opinions to that topic are:
pro:
+ one site for all manufacurers
+ still clearly seperated

cons:
- the wiki was sometimes a little confusing (because of the different types of buffalo device hardware configurations) and i fear that (with more devices) the new wiki might become even more confusing because of the unavailability of moderators.

i appreciate the work of mindbender and i hope he will push on the further development of this site! i hope this helps...

kind regards,
flo

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:31 pm 
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This thread is being locked for now.

Thanks TheAperture.com for your comments. The reason why mindbender chose to open this up for public discussion, was that last summer when the changes began, it was all private. Quite a few regular members within the community felt jaded that they were not given a proper chance to voice their opinions/concerns before we went through with the plan. So, we tried to keep this private and between the staff only, but that only ticked people off.

Currently, we are working hard to please everyone (the newcomers that perhaps do not mind the nas-central.org structure, and the longtimers that helped build this community, and wish to preserve our identity).

The decision has been made to keep nas-central.org, following bbradley's model. However nas-central.org will become separate and no longer represent the buffalo/melco community. We have the difficulty of choosing a domain name that equally represents the linkstation, kurobox, and terastation sub-communities (which was what started this whole issue). We do however have a tentative plan to find a better suited name that'll help preserve our buffalo centric identity and settle this once and for all.

Please visit this poll to learn about the plan, and cast your vote. :)

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